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Heheh...you can't be serious? I actually came back to say a word in Meg's defense, because I was there and he was just as enamored w/ Meg as she him even after he found out how old she was, which she came out with before they even got involved. He really told you we never cyberred? LOL, and you believe him? Like I said...you are delusional, I won't waste my time recanting all your last post of lies and twists, because you aren't even smart enough to check the true facts, or even refute what was posted HERE accurately, you two are doomed, he's already lying to you and a relationship w/o truth, trust and complete honesty is no relationship. He was repulsed? Hmhmm, that's why I had to block Pat because he kept attacking me every time I got on, I have the convos saved as well and I offered HIM my address? Oh my, well, guess you are gullible as well as mental and my board is for 18 and over and always was, I am not going around IRL picking up people 20 years my junior, you are. The internet is for play and I enjoy playing and there is nothing wrong with it, I know the difference.
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Here is the true nature of what Doc and I had....a friendship, I chose to post this one rather than the cybers or him asking for my address, because to me, this one says it all and is positive. You and he can play these games if you like, what you will read in this IM is the sort of thing all this nonsense has taken from him, and not only concerning me, but all of us, we were good friends to him, he is a coward and a liar and undeserving.
P.S. And don't push me, because I am not ashamed of anything I do and I openly apologize for things when I am wrong, so I am unafraid, but I will tell you, Pat better hope you do not cause me to publish one of our cyber convos that I just reread, because in this particular convo, we discuss his former relationship with Brina, we discuss his then current relationship with Meg- lol, yeah, they did exist despite what Pat told you and we discuss some things that he wouldn't want his best friend hearing, it will do Pat far more damage than me since he continues to feed you lies, it only shows me cyberring and then being a supportive friend. *shrugs*
And you want to suggest that I am no lady because I cyber online? Online is fantasy...play, like reading erotica. Pat says in this convo that you paraded around in a skimpy nightgown in front of two boys half your age on the first night you met, that's something I would never do IRL, we see the truth of the matter and it's from the mouth of your own beloved.
This IM also proves, beyond doubt, that I never stood in the way nor was I ever jealous of Pat having a relationship with you, AND gives a much more accurate account of what everyone's reaction would have been if you had acted decently from the beginning instead of trying to impress through insults at TBB. If I had read that first, instead of speaking to Pat first, I would have reacted the same way as everyone there.
You can post all the convos you want to, IM logs can be doctored very easily, as you have just proven, mixing things I said with falsehoods.
The crux of the matter is I didn't have a relationship of any sort with you or Meg. In both cases it was just crude sexual conversation, something which I never have with somebody I have feelings for (it's something I didn't even do in my last relationship, with Sabrina). In your case Arc there was indeed sexual conversation both on boards and on messenger, not to mention the fact that you were having such conversations with all manner of people, including Meg. Part of the reason that this dialogue existed between us for a time was that I was depressed and after attention, to an extent, and also because of the circumstances surrounding you. You were having these convos with all manner of people, having a bf in real life yourself. The context was clearly very cheap sexual shits 'n' giggles. And yes, I know what you're talking about regarding my friend Anthony. I'll save you the trouble of typing it out. I asked you to break of your relationship with Anthony. I did so because I felt it wasn't an emotionally healthy situation for him to be in. Whatever bullshit and doctored convos you try and throw up to make me look bad the bottom line is I was looking out for a real friend, the fact that you tried it on with me in a cyber context when I indulged you further reinforced my belief that it was not a healthy relationship for Anthony to be in with you, a belief which was even further reinforced by how upset he was after you two "broke up". You might think you knew him but however well you thought you knew him I knew far better how he was feeling and I acted out of care for my friend Anthony.
The same goes for Meg. We were never in a relationship of any sort. Once again it was crude sexual conversation, which she was always the initiator of. I went along with it because I thought nothing more of it than I ever do of these sorts of conversations, they are merely strings of ASCII text on a screen, and because of Meg's apparantly busy sexual history in real life, plus she lied about her age. Once again it was simply very cheap, meaningless sexual conversation (which I never initiated), there was never any kind of relationship to speak of. It was Meg who then started to become more and more stalker-like, phoning me and writing to me, she was always the one who initiated things. I eventually asked her not to contact me anymore, I had found someone in real life with whom I can share something truly meaningful, she turned like this on me.
Bottom line is that, yes I engaged for a time in cheap, meaningless sexual banter with people who were engaging in similar dialogues with others and who were obviously decidedly cheap and easy about sexual matters on and offline. Also in neither case did I ask for either yours or Meg's addresses.
I never initiated these sexual conversations, and though I did participate in them for a time the fact is that I do not anymore. I have found someone in real life whom I care for deeply and with whom I can share something truly meaningful. All the bullshit you spewed at me is meaningless, I have cited my reasons for what I did in the past, and the past is history. You and Meg and the others have shown yourselves to be the shallow, twisted people you are by what you have posted.
wrote ... when he pointed out that you don't really know him, which you don't and neither does Meg as niether of you have ever met him.
Actually,Pat's main existence in the world consisted of the internet for the most part. So I think we all knew him very well, even though, he is trying to be something different now.
wrote ... Brooke and Dave have met him, but he was depressed at that time, and everyone knows how this can change people. I doubt they would have got on when he was not depresssed from what I have seeen as they seem to have a very different outlook on life and vastly different politics and social values...
People don't become new personalities simply because they are depressed. It seems to me you and he are making too many excuses for this depression. It isn't like cocaine which alters your behavior so much you do things that are uncontrollable. I think he is afraid to be completely honest with you about his past because he thinks he might lose you.
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Meg was never his girlfriend she told him she loved him
Actually, I never spoke to Meg in person and I knew they had an online relationship. He told me she was his girlfriend. I do have conversations proving that, for whatever its worth. I have to wonder why he is lying to you about all of this. It is in the past before he ever met you, so why lie about it now, especially to someone you love.
wrote ... Pat doesn't like hurtimg people's feelings
Yeah, it used to be that way. Now he only cares about your feelings. Hell, he doesn't even care about his own feelings anymore.
wrote ... Meg, who although 16 has A LOT of sexual experience; far more than Pat at 20, took advantage of this
Sexual experience doesn't mature people. And I've never heard of a minor manipulating an adult. It is interesting the excuses we make to ourselves, because we don't want to believe the truth.
wrote ... He has learned who he can and cannot trust here and you have ploaced yourself firmly in the NOT category by the posts you have made
For all the lies he is consuming himself with, I think Pat needs to add himself to that list.
wrote ... You have resorted to personal insults that I will not stoop to AS IT REVEALS MORE ABOUT YOU THAN IT DOES ME AS YOU DO NOT KNOW ME.
It's interesting because I do believe you are the one that started insulting what you thought was Arcane's personal life.
wrote ... We're in a stable and lasting relationship..despite online attempts to come between us and this obviously bothers you a lot
Stable relationships are honest relationships. Are you sure that he has been honest with you? An the online attempts are not to come between you. It seems you keep ignoring the reason why Pat has angered people, and it really doesn't have much to do with you. It's just how he has treated us since he has met you.
wrote ... Mine and Pat's responses today are reasoned and factual
Keep telling yourself that. We all have nothing better to do besides make up lies about Pat who lives thousands of miles away from us. We really have no reason to lie, apparently he feels he must for some reason.
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Even online on an assanine board like this
Yes, at times this board can be rather asinine. Oh and to Pat..
wrote ... As for "online relationships" I want to point out that I was never in an online relationship with Meg
Really. You told me you were. You thought Meg was wonderful. Why lie about your past when it might ruin your future.
wrote ... You can post all the convos you want to, IM logs can be doctored very easily, as you have just proven, mixing things I said with falsehoods.
I never was in a relationship with Meg, and I know I never said anything to that effect to anybody, bottom line. Come up with whatever bullshit you like to prove this, it is at the end of the day just that, bullshit.
And whilst depression does not make a completely unique, new personality for somebody it certainly does make somebody do things which are not true to themselves, which is what I have said it did to me.
Well apparently we never knew you then Pat. Perhaps your life started when you met Dee, and the person we knew for three years was a depressed demon which made you a nice guy that befriended others.
Oh, and you did have a relationship with Meg. It's either that or you lied to me then. You are a lying piece of shit and I'm sick and tired of it. I'm glad all of this happened, because it shows you are not the person we thought you were.
Oh, and I will post the conversations. Keep lying to everyone including yourself, but I thought your goal was to be happy one day.
Anyone that cannot tell the truth is not happy, no matter how much they proclaim to be.
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You said it to me too, so again, you are the liar here and how dare you accuse me of doctoring convos, get real.
"Brooke" wrote ...
fc01fb7dc3 wrote ... You can post all the convos you want to, IM logs can be doctored very easily, as you have just proven, mixing things I said with falsehoods.
Who are you?
You idiot, you are proven a liar again and again- I don't doctor convos, I am not that type of person and Tony knows this if no one else here does. You never asked such a thing and you know very well what it was regarding. You are acting out of the sheer need to protect your lily white ass, same as always. But you honestly astound me with the lengths you have gone to here, amazing. Well, I can see now you two are meant for each other, deserve each other even.
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I told Tony already that I would understand if he stayed out of this, that though he could help settle issues, what would happen is Pat would just make up stuff concerning him too and call him a liar. Unlike you Pat, I really care for people and would like to see him spared your further betrayals. They have been friends for a very long time and I would hate to see Pat's, hopefully temporary, lack of good taste and judgment spoil that.
Oh, and Pat, if Meg and I cybering you makes us "cheap and easy about sexual matters on and offline," what exactly do you think it makes you? You are one of the biggest cybersluts I have seen, you even cybered one of my friends when he was pretending to be a girl. Again, unlike you, I know the difference between IRL and playing online and it is one thing to be a prude about such matters, but quite another when you are a prude and do it anyway and then start name calling others things you are yourself....guess we can add hypocrite to liar among your new titles. Also, and I admit I may have my facts off, but I thought Meg was a virgin. Plus when did I EVER claim a relationship with you..please, you argue points that weren't even made. I have read Asylum back logs where you have plenty of, "crude sexual conversation" with Sabrina...so again, another lie. I was always the one talking to you about getting Tony out and dating IRL for his own good and in case your memory fails you, your only concern was that he think it had nothing to do with you when I finally had to make it clear to him he and I were never happening and my exact words were......why would he, it doesn't. The convo in question had to do with the Spydra RP character, not any online relationship. You never initiated? *sighs* There really isn't much point in continually spewing the truth to you, you are obviously as delusional as your new girlfriend there.
By the way Pat. Since it seems to be your goal to do everything you can to hide your past even to the depths of hurting feelings, I have done you a favor. I have many online conversations which naturally my computer logs automatically. It will take me a while if I want to carry it all the way through, but I just might do it. All of your lies, if I can find where you've stated otherwise, will be revealed especially when you are hurting someone unessasarily to save your own hide. Don't be concerned, I won't post everything, not even things you said early in your relationship about Dee because that would be wrong of me and it isn't relevant.
To defend Meg Starting with the following comment:
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The fact is that I do not find her attractive and she is most certainly not the type of person I would ever go out with.
Maybe you don't find her attractive now, but you definately did once. And Meg, please do not be offended by my comments, realizing that I do not like to comment about the physical attributes of 16 year olds. I'll also find where he said things about how he felt Arcane was hot and when he admitted to an online relationship with Meg. I have a lot to look through though.
wrote ... 2004-11-09 dr von evil (4:51:52 PM): How is Sandy? Brobat22 (4:54:59 PM): shes good Brobat22 (4:55:04 PM): shes eating chicken right now dr von evil (4:55:33 PM): awwww dr von evil (4:55:44 PM): Go to TBB and look in photos please dr von evil (4:55:49 PM): At "pictures of Miss Meg" Brobat22 (4:55:53 PM): ive seen them Brobat22 (4:55:57 PM): unless she added more dr von evil (4:56:10 PM): OK dr von evil (4:56:16 PM): What do you think of her? Brobat22 (4:56:26 PM): about her looks Brobat22 (4:56:28 PM): shes average dr von evil (4:56:42 PM): What? That's both you and Dave think she's nothing special dr von evil (4:56:44 PM): Strange Brobat22 (4:56:55 PM): why what do you think dr von evil (4:57:05 PM): That she's very pretty indeed Brobat22 (4:58:31 PM): eh Brobat22 (4:58:55 PM): her friend looks like the red hed from england dr von evil (4:59:09 PM): Who? Brobat22 (4:59:39 PM): ginger Brobat22 (4:59:43 PM): or whoever she is dr von evil (4:59:47 PM): Kinda dr von evil (4:59:52 PM): Except less curly dr von evil (5:00:05 PM): I think Meghan is very pretty, what's average about her? Brobat22 (5:00:17 PM): shes average Brobat22 (5:00:20 PM): i dont know dr von evil (5:00:35 PM): You people are strange dr von evil (5:00:42 PM): She sent me a letter while I was at your house Brobat22 (5:00:47 PM): if i were to look around my classroom, shed be 10 of the girls in there Brobat22 (5:00:58 PM): oh is this the psycho girl dr von evil (5:01:07 PM): Psycho? Brobat22 (5:01:16 PM): yeah the one that lives in florida Brobat22 (5:01:29 PM): and makes crazy posts dr von evil (5:01:50 PM): nonononono, that's Forget Suzette, she's about Dave's age dr von evil (5:02:06 PM): This is Meg, she lives in Illinois, and she's a fellow mod on TBB Brobat22 (5:03:03 PM): oh Brobat22 (5:03:04 PM): ok dr von evil (5:03:07 PM): As you are a mod there too now Brobat22 (5:03:11 PM): yeah dr von evil (5:03:13 PM): Dave was mean to her Brobat22 (5:03:15 PM): did you announce that somewhere Brobat22 (5:03:20 PM): mean to her where Brobat22 (5:03:26 PM): hell be friends with her tomorrow dr von evil (5:03:30 PM): In her pics thread Brobat22 (5:03:33 PM): and asking if he can do her dr von evil (5:03:34 PM): I was gonna tell her that dr von evil (5:03:54 PM): heh, well she hates anal dr von evil (5:04:02 PM): So he probably will try and convert her dr von evil (5:04:05 PM): And she's 16 Brobat22 (5:04:14 PM): ah Brobat22 (5:04:19 PM): so why did you make miss meg a mod Brobat22 (5:04:28 PM): when you knew it would make people mad dr von evil (5:04:56 PM): She's level headed and intelligent, those are the qualities I look for in a mod, not how often you're at the board dr von evil (5:05:05 PM): That's how Rich Allen got made a mod, before I was admin dr von evil (5:05:09 PM): And fuck em if they get mad dr von evil (5:05:29 PM): At least it stirred a little interest in the site
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Thanks Brooke, I for one, appreciate you taking the time to look that up to post, I have similar convos concerning Meg and you should hear what he said about Dave while still living off of you guys, he's not even worth anyone's time, if I wasn't so hurt, I certainly wouldn't be giving him mine.
Ok this is funny.... No Sharla, you are right..having had 3 sexual partners and being able to say you don';t like anal does not make someone mature..it merely makes them cheap and skanky and probably riddled with all sorts of anti-social sexual diseases..thank god Pat never met up with meg when she asked him to when he was staying with you. The conversation reveals more about YOUR jealousy over PAT saying a girl who is obviously far more attractive than you is "average" and you get 10 of those in your class shows what an insecure harpy you really are.
Arc you rhought Meg was a virgin LMAO you are obviously a GOOD judge of character...NOT Pat and I read your role playing games we never laughed so much in all our lives. What is wrong with an undersexed teen having cyber with an old slag who not getting it right off her partner so has to suppliment it with cheap online thrill with strangers? And a 15 yr old anal expert with 3 previous sexual partners who inititates cyber in their first real online convo? You know guys who aren't getting it will put it in any available hole, be it online or otherwise..at least he practised "safe sex" so I have no worries lol.
Pat didn't know me then, so why should I give a damn...I don't...how strange that YOU all do....... I won't be commenting on this again as you keep dragging up the same old crap and none of it is relevant to Pat and me and our current relationship. Oh yeah an online relationship...is NOT a relationship, lol..its cheap sexual and emotional fulfilment with no committment and no ties..Meaningless, a little sad..But harmelss
You seem to labe3l a lot of girls psycho..I'm glad I'm not the first!
"Elysium_Angel" wrote ... Ok this is funny.... No Sharla, you are right..having had 3 sexual partners and being able to say you don';t like anal does not make someone mature..it merely makes them cheap and skanky and probably riddled with all sorts of anti-social sexual diseases..
Arc you rhought Meg was a virgin LMAO you are obviously a GOOD judge of character...
And a 15 yr old anal expert with 3 previous sexual partners who inititates cyber in their first real online convo? You know guys who aren't getting it will put it in any available hole, be it online or otherwise..at least he practised "safe sex" so I have no worries lol.
Now, this is just pathetic. You truly know nothing, which is sad for someone as intelligent as you claim yourself to be. Let me clear things up for you:
1. I've been with four people. No, I'm not proud of it, nor does it make me a grown up. I am as free of disease as you, although I'm taking a leap in assuming you're not a disease-riddled skank yourself.
2. Anal expert? Have you truly not been paying attention? I despise it...read the actual thread, you moron, so that way when you insult me, you make a bit of sense.
So, as far as I'm concerned, keep indulging yourself in these bullshit stories you keep making up. Have you noticed that I've gone from a bitchy 16 year-old stalker to 15 year-old anal expert? Why, eventually I might even transcend into 8 year-old gangbanger!
I don't give a fuck anymore. You two are the ones burning for your lies. Not me. I'm tired of this bullshit. Stop this idiotic high school girl drama and move on with your lives. If you care so little about us here, then for the love of all that's good, just leave us alone.
wrote ... Pat didn't know me then, so why should I give a damn...I don't...how strange that YOU all do
If you didn't give a damn, your old, slimy ass wouldn't be on this board trying to ridicule a 16-year-old with petty bullshit we'd expect from a mental patient not a proclaimed psychologist.
Keep labelling teenagers sluts, but realize that you're old enough to know the results of promiscuity and that doesn't stop you from sleeping with numerous guys which you claimed in your live journal.
How many guys have you slept with Administrator? It isn't important you say. I agree, so stop trying to attack others for their sexual lives which have nothing to do with anything besides you attempting to divert attention from your insecurity of your relationship.
When will you learn that making up or sharing information you believe to be true because your boyfriend told you is never going to mask that you're afraid he is going to leave you one day. Call us sluts, rednecks, and illiterates all you want to but it won't disipate your feelings that Pat will cheat on you and leave your ass one day.
My sole purpose in posting that message was to prove that Pat lied when he said he found Meg unattractive. Now you know he lied to you about it. Keep coming up with bullshit all you want about how we desire Mr. Depression who sulks around begging people to feel sorry for himself, but one day you'll realize he isn't the Tom Cruise you think he is.
Saying a girl is average doesn't say anything about my being jealous. As if Pat's dating anyone could ever make me jealous, because the thought of touching him repulses me.
Not making comments on girls looks that are the age of students in my class says that I am an intelligent educator. This is something you of course aren't familiar with. Otherwise, your pathetic ass wouldn't date kids that are the same age as graduates that just left the school she is an administrator at and you wouldn't post pictures with your boobs hanging out laying in sexually provacative poses because one of your students might stumble upon that site one day. I don't know how things are in the land of the elite, but here in Redneck America you're ass could be fired quickly for just what I've mentioned. Parents would be so afraid you were going to molest their children, you're ass would be gone.
Just know this, Pat found a 16 year old extremely attractive, but told you otherwise.
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wrote ... So, as far as I'm concerned, keep indulging yourself in these bullshit stories you keep making up.
Again, wise words from Meg, and the part where you attempt to flame me and lie about my life is just too riddled with spelling mistakes and bad grammar to get through, you might try a little creative writing on my board to improve that problem. It puts you in a worse light than I ever could manage on my own, well done.
Sharla you followed your boyfriend in your car to the woman he was banging behind your back's apartment, even though he told you he would nit see her again...What was that about being sane and honesty in relationships?
9ea731daee wrote ... 2004-11-09 dr von evil (4:51:52 PM): How is Sandy? Brobat22 (4:54:59 PM): shes good Brobat22 (4:55:04 PM): shes eating chicken right now dr von evil (4:55:33 PM): awwww dr von evil (4:55:44 PM): Go to TBB and look in photos please dr von evil (4:55:49 PM): At "pictures of Miss Meg" Brobat22 (4:55:53 PM): ive seen them Brobat22 (4:55:57 PM): unless she added more dr von evil (4:56:10 PM): OK dr von evil (4:56:16 PM): What do you think of her? Brobat22 (4:56:26 PM): about her looks Brobat22 (4:56:28 PM): shes average dr von evil (4:56:42 PM): What? That's both you and Dave think she's nothing special dr von evil (4:56:44 PM): Strange Brobat22 (4:56:55 PM): why what do you think dr von evil (4:57:05 PM): That she's very pretty indeed Brobat22 (4:58:31 PM): eh Brobat22 (4:58:55 PM): her friend looks like the red hed from england dr von evil (4:59:09 PM): Who? Brobat22 (4:59:39 PM): ginger Brobat22 (4:59:43 PM): or whoever she is dr von evil (4:59:47 PM): Kinda dr von evil (4:59:52 PM): Except less curly dr von evil (5:00:05 PM): I think Meghan is very pretty, what's average about her? Brobat22 (5:00:17 PM): shes average Brobat22 (5:00:20 PM): i dont know dr von evil (5:00:35 PM): You people are strange dr von evil (5:00:42 PM): She sent me a letter while I was at your house Brobat22 (5:00:47 PM): if i were to look around my classroom, shed be 10 of the girls in there Brobat22 (5:00:58 PM): oh is this the psycho girl dr von evil (5:01:07 PM): Psycho? Brobat22 (5:01:16 PM): yeah the one that lives in florida Brobat22 (5:01:29 PM): and makes crazy posts dr von evil (5:01:50 PM): nonononono, that's Forget Suzette, she's about Dave's age dr von evil (5:02:06 PM): This is Meg, she lives in Illinois, and she's a fellow mod on TBB Brobat22 (5:03:03 PM): oh Brobat22 (5:03:04 PM): ok dr von evil (5:03:07 PM): As you are a mod there too now Brobat22 (5:03:11 PM): yeah dr von evil (5:03:13 PM): Dave was mean to her Brobat22 (5:03:15 PM): did you announce that somewhere Brobat22 (5:03:20 PM): mean to her where Brobat22 (5:03:26 PM): hell be friends with her tomorrow dr von evil (5:03:30 PM): In her pics thread Brobat22 (5:03:33 PM): and asking if he can do her dr von evil (5:03:34 PM): I was gonna tell her that dr von evil (5:03:54 PM): heh, well she hates anal dr von evil (5:04:02 PM): So he probably will try and convert her dr von evil (5:04:05 PM): And she's 16 Brobat22 (5:04:14 PM): ah Brobat22 (5:04:19 PM): so why did you make miss meg a mod Brobat22 (5:04:28 PM): when you knew it would make people mad dr von evil (5:04:56 PM): She's level headed and intelligent, those are the qualities I look for in a mod, not how often you're at the board dr von evil (5:05:05 PM): That's how Rich Allen got made a mod, before I was admin dr von evil (5:05:09 PM): And fuck em if they get mad dr von evil (5:05:29 PM): At least it stirred a little interest in the site
"DoctorVonEvil" wrote ... The same goes for Meg. We were never in a relationship of any sort. Once again it was crude sexual conversation, which she was always the initiator of. I went along with it because I thought nothing more of it than I ever do of these sorts of conversations, they are merely strings of ASCII text on a screen, and because of Meg's apparantly busy sexual history in real life, plus she lied about her age. Once again it was simply very cheap, meaningless sexual conversation
