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McdamnThatFiddleStick!
Fri Sep 14 2007, 03:37am
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I will never forget ept 11 and how I was sitting in my homeroom class and my teacher told us what happened. It was shocking.

RIP: to those who lost thire lives frown
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Emperor Reagan
Fri Sep 14 2007, 05:28am
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Anyone who thought the US was one of the safest countries in the world was deluding themselves to begin with; we've got one of the highest violent crime rates in the first world. While we're not anywhere near the horror that some places, like Darfur, see, there should be a huge debate on why our approach to crime and punishment is such a catastrophic failure.

And it frankly should have come as no surprise to anyone that the US was attacked on 9-11. There was a ton of open source literature from both government and scholarly sources indicating that the United States was long overdue for such an event. It was more good fortune than anything else that kept us safe for so long.

I have seen absolutely zero change post 9-11 that would make any person on this entire planet safer.

The realization that Americans are not as safe as they thought means absolutely nothing if they can't bridge the disconnect between the fear that knowledge brings and how domestic and foreign policy impact individual safety.
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Mosh
Fri Sep 14 2007, 08:25am
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The thing that most of us (and I do mean us, because Australia hasslavishly followed the Bush Administrations lead) dont seem to get that our supposed "National Interests" seem to fuck over anyone unfortunate enough to spark our political interest.

Real security will only be possible when this fucking stupid "Us or Them" notion is dropped, and we start treating the people we're "supposedly" trying to help like equals. Diffferent isnt bad, its just different.
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Lusive
Fri Sep 14 2007, 01:03pm
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From outright warfare, this IS(based on the isolationistic attitude) one of the safest countries. From violent crime, not so much. But it's different having someone shoot ONE person down in the streets than it is when a whole building with THOUSANDS of lives lost because someone decided to dive into it with a big plane.

And when you live in the midwest, in your quiet little town, where nothing ever changes and it's still the "best little town on earth" mentality, it's really hard to imagine such atrocities as Darfur. And again,individuals cannot make a difference on how policy is placed nor acted upon. Our government hides massive amounts of "true" reports from the average American. And unless you go out seeking such reports, you'll not find them. This is my shame in the government. I'm not arguing the things you say, however, the average American feels safe because nothing has happened on their homefront in their entire lifetime. Nothing of what your granddad says about WW2 really impacts you as much as you experiencing something similar yourself.
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who?
Fri Sep 14 2007, 01:18pm
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track the money, folks. insurance money, that is.
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lovernios
Fri Sep 14 2007, 09:37pm
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I don't think we have any kind of isolationist approach
We just feel isolated because we keep to ourselves and our lives.


911 was an inside job

There is no way those building fell from burning jet fuel

All 3?

When no skyscraper fire in the history of skyscrapers and skyscraper fires - EVER - ended in a total collapse?

Believe the myth
Pay for the gas
Be fat and stupid
Watch the world fold into itself
Live the dream of 'Circus and Breadlines'
The masses are enslaved...

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who?
Fri Sep 14 2007, 10:26pm
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your mom's enslaved.
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lovernios
Fri Sep 14 2007, 11:54pm
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haha

i smell your fear
it smells like chitlins

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lovernios
Sat Sep 15 2007, 12:07am
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[Click, Dick]
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lovernios
Sat Sep 15 2007, 12:18am
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[Click, Dick]
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lovernios
Sat Sep 15 2007, 12:24am
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one more

this one is pretty terrifying, about 1:45 into the video

its a montage of video clips collected by some amateur, clips of the day


[Click, Dick] Edited Sat Sep 15 2007, 12:47am
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who?
Sat Sep 15 2007, 12:55am
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inside tower 1 during the collapse:
[Click, Dick]
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who?
Sat Sep 15 2007, 01:00am
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i posted that to kinda ask thrash if that's sorta what it was like.
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Lusive
Sat Sep 15 2007, 02:06pm
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To be honest, Mike, it wouldn't shock me if there was some inside job going on. Truth is, I'm not privy to such details. All I know is I watched planes fly into those buildings, and I know I sat there dumbstruck and I felt a sense of fear for what was to come. By isolationistic attitude, it's not so much the government I was referring to, it was individuals. WAY too many don't feel like anything could happen here. And they got their cages rattled pretty badly with 9/11.
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lovernios
Sat Sep 15 2007, 09:42pm
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eh

watch 911 Eyewitness

first click

and get back to me

no more comments

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who?
Sun Sep 30 2007, 05:52pm
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This may be in bad taste:


Osama

Cyanide & Happiness @ Explosm.net
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Thrash
Thu Sep 11 2008, 06:24pm
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Here we are, one year later, yet, SEVEN years later ...

I'm still doing the talks in the schools, it's still in my head, but not as much ...

Enjoy the new day; happy anniversary, mom ...
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Emperor Reagan
Fri Sep 12 2008, 03:15am
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This morning while I was looking at cnn.com, I noticed one of their breaking news stories was that a woman was crying at the memorial where they read all the names.

Man, that's some breaking news. People crying at a memorial service.
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Zoomie
Fri Sep 12 2008, 03:23am
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Shocking!
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Thrash
Fri Sep 12 2008, 06:54pm
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Yeah, even I'D think that's a little cheesy ...
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