Ah Christ. All year long I've worked on being able to strike up a conversation with a girl, and have no fear doing it... but I am feeling nervous as hell at the prospect of what tomorrow night holds.
I am just nervous about greeting her at her apartment. I guess since we kissed the other night, now it's expected every time we see each other? We were both pretty lit Sunday night. I'll be sober as the day I was born when I knock on her door tomorrow.
Whatever. I just need to keep myself calm, act cool, just think that it's not the end of the world if nothing happens, lessen the pressure, and remember there is always another girl waiting around the corner, (actually I'm meeting a new on on Saturday - I'll call her "D"). Again, I shouldn't NEED to fuck her. She gets it if I WANT to. I have an abundance of patience.
I'm not going to tell her I'm a virgin, beforehand or during. Maybe not even after. Just to gauge how she acts on my lack of prowess in the bedroom. Then if we see each other again, I may nonchalantly be like, yo that was the first time I've had sex. No big deal.
...better check the expiration date on my condoms.
Look, if some chick's hanging out with you on a date of some ilk you can safely assume the following:
A: She knows that you will probably try to fuck her
B: Whether she's amenable to point A or not, if you don't try to fuck her she will think you are a pussy and move on to someone else who's willing to give it a shot.
Just the very FACT that she's spending time with you in the first place means that she's willing to take the chance that you're going to try to fuck her. Since you made out with her already and she's going out with you again you better believe it will be a major mistake NOT to go for another make out session.
Just to be clear to you two idiots, SHE EXPECTS ANOTHER MAKE OUT SESSION!
AND...
SHE MAY CHANGE HER MIND ABOUT MAKING OUT WITH YOU DURING THE DATE. WOMEN DO SUCH THINGS.
HOWEVER...
EVEN IF SHE DOES CHANGE HER MIND AND YOU GO FOR THE MAKE OUT ONLY TO GET SHOT DOWN SHE WILL STILL BE HAPPY THAT YOU WENT FOR IT.
IT MAKES HER FEEL LIKE HOT SHIT.
GETTING SHOT DOWN IS MUCH LESS OF A MISTAKE THAN NOT GOING FOR IT.
You may feel like a real ass cause you just got shot down but console yourself by knowing you followed the rules exactly the way they are meant to be followed. Then lose that bitche's phone number. NEXT!
Is that clear enough for you morans?
Edited Wed Dec 17 2008, 04:44pm
PS: If you're ever on a first date with a girl who's extremely nervous it's not because she's afraid you're going to make a move on her, it's because she's afraid you're NOT going to make a move.
Why am I clueless? I DID NOT say not to go for another make out session. Baggy made it sound like you greet her with a kiss on the second date, and that would be strange.
That's exactly what you DON'T want to do. Now I'm not saying make her feel worthless, but make her feel like YOU are hot shit and of higher value. Now I agree with krsna to always "go for it". Just make sure it's good timing. Show her that you enjoyed kissing her, but show her that it's no big deal weather you get in her pants or not (I don't mean not to try, you just need to cut a woman's ego down to size a bit).
Edited Wed Dec 17 2008, 05:01pm
Don't go over complicating things with that Mystery shit.
She knew long before you tried to kiss her whether or not it would be allowed. Guess what? The only way to find out is to go for it, and of course there's timing involved.
However, even if you're getting all systems are go signals and get the dreaded "head turn" on the kiss it's not your fault. Remember, she decided long ago that you weren't permitted to fuck her.
Still, you did try, and even though she shot you down she still has warm fuzzy feelings because you tried.
No DHV or any other mumbo jumbo bullshit is ever going to change that and it doesn't matter anyway because you and her both know you did your part.
Erase the phone number and move on.
Edited Wed Dec 17 2008, 05:18pm
Don't go over complicating things with that Mystery shit.
Oh, I apologize. I actually forgot that it is YOU that are the world renowned pick up artist. Don't let me get in the way of teaching your craft. Bagman, don't listen to me, just follow Krsna's directions exactly. If it works for you than I'll pay my respects to the almighty.
Bagman, I don't know about most other women, however, if you follow Krsna with me, you'd fall flat on your face. I don't operate like that. HOWEVER, that being said, every woman is different and there is no "script" into getting into her pants. Play it by ear. She'll show you she's receptive to you by her body language, etc. The best advice that can be given to you is to play off her.
Danzig: What Mystery teaches is how to initiate an interesting conversation and present yourself as a confident person who's not some kind of social misfit. He provides a framework you can follow easily and that in turn gives you confidence which in turn makes you appear... confident. He sprinkles in a whole bunch of acronyms along the way to make it more confusing than it really is and keep people bringing their wallets back for "newer" and "more secret" techniques. Mystery didn't invent the PUA scene he only makes it look that way. He WAS a major contributor to alt.seduction.fast and undoubtedly has helped a lot of people, but let's not pretend he's the second coming of christ. Getting laid is very simple... Be fun, have a set of balls, don't be insecure, don't be an asshole.
I'd like to point out that the real purpose of a "neg" isn't to knock a woman down a peg. It's not supposed to be an insult, it's to be presented as playful teasing. In fact, if you deliver a neg and it's percieved as an insult you did it wrong.
Lusive: Just so I understand... If you liked a guy and were hanging out doing fun stuff together and you wanted to be romanticly involved with him and he tried to kiss you that would be a bad thing?
Thank you so much for clarifying things, krsna. Once again, you make me feel so stupid in comparison! I guess that's the price I have to pay to converse with someone of your intellectual caliber.
What would funnier than bullshitting someone when it comes to their first time having sex? It's not like it could scar them for life with a painful memory.
