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Fri Oct 10 2008, 08:33pm Print
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It's about time my home-state played along ...

Conn. high court rules gay couples can marry
By DAVE COLLINS, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago

HARTFORD, Conn. - Connecticut's Supreme Court ruled Friday that gay couples have the right to marry, making the state the third behind Massachusetts and California to legalize such unions. The ruling comes just weeks before Californians go to the polls on a historic gay-marriage ballot question, the first time the issue will be put before voters in a state where same-sex couples are legally wed.

The 4-3 ruling is the first time that a state that had willingly offered an alternative to marriage was told by a court that civil unions aren't enough to protect the rights of gay couples. Connecticut was the first state to voluntarily pass laws to affirm civil unions.

"I can't believe it. We're thrilled, we're absolutely overjoyed. We're finally going to be able, after 33 years, to get married," said Janet Peck of Colchester, who was a plaintiff with her partner, Carole Conklin.

"I'm just ecstatic. It's such a relief, the joy of it," said another plaintiff, Jody Mock of West Hartford, who sued with partner Elizabeth Kerrigan.

In the majority opinion, Justice Richard N. Palmer wrote that denying marriage to same-sex couples would create separate standards.

"Interpreting our state constitutional provisions in accordance with firmly established equal protection principles leads inevitably to the conclusion that gay persons are entitled to marry the otherwise qualified same sex partner of their choice," Palmer wrote.

The Family Institute of Connecticut, a political action group that opposes gay marriage, called the ruling outrageous.

"Even the legislature, as liberal as ours, decided that marriage is between a man and a woman," said executive director Peter Wolfgang. "This is about our right to govern ourselves. It is bigger than gay marriage."

Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said the ruling goes into effect Oct. 28 when it is implemented by action of the of the Superior Court. There will be no appeal, he said.

Gov. M. Jodi Rell said she disagreed with the ruling.

"The Supreme Court has spoken," she said. "I do not believe their voice reflects the majority of the people of Connecticut. However, I am also firmly convinced that attempts to reverse this decision — either legislatively or by amending the state Constitution — will not meet with success."

State Sen. Michael Lawlor, chairman of the legislature's Judiciary Committee, said he expects the General Assembly will pass a gay marriage law next year codifying the Supreme Court ruling.

"It's important that both the legislature and the court weigh in," he said. "The court is saying that it's a constitutional requirement that marriage should be equally available to gays and straights and the legislature should weigh in saying whether or not it's constitutionally required, it's the right thing to do."

The court was sharply divided in the decision, with three justices issuing separate dissenting opinions.

Senior Associate Justice David M. Bordon cited Connecticut's civil union's law passed in 2005 and said there is no conclusive evidence that civil unions are inferior to marriages.

"It is simply too early to know this with any reasonable measure of certitude," Borden wrote.

Justice Peter T. Zarella wrote that he believes there is no fundamental right to same-sex marriage, and the court's majority failed to discuss the purpose of marriage laws, which he said is to "privilege and regulate procreative conduct."

Zarella added, "The ancient definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman has its basis in biology, not bigotry. If the state no longer has an interest in the regulation of procreation, then that is a decision for the legislature or the people of the state and not this court."

The lawsuit was brought in 2004 after eight same-sex couples were denied marriage licenses and sued, saying their constitutional rights to equal protection and due process were violated.

They said the state's marriage law, if applied only to heterosexual couples, denied them of the financial, social and emotional benefits of marriage.

Supreme courts in Massachusetts and California also have ruled in favor of gay and lesbian couples, concluding the domestic partnerships were unequal to the rights given in heterosexual marriage.

Civil unions and a similar arrangement, known as domestic partnerships, are offered to same-sex couples in Vermont, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Oregon, Hawaii, Maine, Washington and the District of Columbia.

Peck said that as soon as the decision was announced, the couple started crying and hugging while juggling excited phone calls from her brother and other friends and family.

"We've always dreamed of being married," she said. "Even though we were lesbians and didn't know if that would ever come true, we always dreamed of it."


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Zoomie
Fri Oct 10 2008, 10:49pm
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Connecticut is, after all, for fucking.

But since they're broke, they only want the licensing revenue.
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Thrash
Fri Oct 10 2008, 11:35pm
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Still ...
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Mosh
Sun Nov 09 2008, 05:12am
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This whole gay marriage thing is a diversion from all the real problems. Who really cares if 2 blokes marry or 2 women marry? Good luck to 'em, if they do. It's not like gay marriage affects me in any meaningful way. I'm not offended by homosexual people, and the resulting lowering of the birthrate can only be a good thing.

Anyways, the whole marriage thing is redundant now. I view people who marry these days as being delusional. I'm not married, dont see myself being married, and yet I've stayed with the same woman for over a decade, which is longer than most marriages last. We still get people asking us incredulously why we arent married yet, to which the response is always "why bother fucking up something that works with all that religious nonsense?". We also get a lot of "why dont you have kids yet?" too, my response is usually "Because we like our lives the way they are, not the way everyone else thinks they should be."

Its a molehill made into a mountain. Simple as that. Edited Sun Nov 09 2008, 05:16am
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AspHole
Sun Nov 09 2008, 07:49am
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i'm with you on those points... and i've been with my other half since '97
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Thrash
Sun Nov 09 2008, 09:03am
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I didn't know she had a dick; but it'll explain a few things ...
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Lusive
Sun Nov 09 2008, 01:45pm
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I don't understand how they can "deny" someone something that doesn't infringe on anyone else' rights. I also don't see what the big deal is on a legal standard. Religiously, sure, but that token, atheists aren't supposed to get married because of the no faith issue. It just irritates me that we make such big fucking deals over shit that's so inconsequential. Such as gays and lesbians getting married, or the colour of a man's skin, or people who've been together for ever not getting married, or not wanting to have kids. I honestly think that these religious nutjobs are INFRINGING on the rights of everyone else.
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Zoomie
Sun Nov 09 2008, 04:34pm
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I'd agree with you but since I'm totally against procreation...
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Thrash
Sun Nov 09 2008, 05:31pm
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Yeah, they preach all that "love thy neighbor" shit ...
... unless your god has a bigger dick than theirs (or none at all)
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FAH-Q
Sun Nov 09 2008, 07:03pm
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Mosh wrote ...
Anyways, the whole marriage thing is redundant now. I view people who marry these days as being delusional. I'm not married, dont see myself being married, and yet I've stayed with the same woman for over a decade, which is longer than most marriages last. We still get people asking us incredulously why we arent married yet, to which the response is always "why bother fucking up something that works with all that religious nonsense?"


Agreed. Amy and I have been together for over 3 years now, and engaged for about 2 of 'em. We have no real plans for the moment to change that, cuz we're enjoying things as they are. People have a hard time getting their heads around that, though. Like, "what do we MEAN we're engaged with no plans to marry in the forseeable future??" Heh.
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Thrash
Mon Nov 10 2008, 01:48am
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Brooke and I - 6 years
Dan and his girl - 11 years

None of us are marrying anytime soon ...
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Lusive
Mon Nov 10 2008, 02:50pm
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Shoot I was with Rob for 8 years, never even talked about marriage, with the exception of us both say, meh fuck that.

I've been with Wes now just over 2 years, both have said we don't want to get married. But oh eghads, now that we're going to have a baby (complete surprise, etc), everyone is coming out of the woodwork asking when we're going to get married. As IF that will make us better parents. My response is always, "can I handle on crisis at a time...thank you."
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Mon Nov 10 2008, 06:56pm
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Agreed ...
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Thrash
Tue Nov 11 2008, 08:15am
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Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
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Zoomie
Tue Nov 11 2008, 12:40pm
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Emperor Reagan
Tue Nov 18 2008, 05:06am
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I STILL don't understand why some people feel better about calling a gay marriage a "civil union."

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Zoomie
Tue Nov 18 2008, 11:12am
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"Cuz two queers in love might be contagious, dammit! And we don't need to catch that in our bedrooms with Jeebus watching us procreate."
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